riosleftsock
10:50 Fri Jan 22
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Agreed Mashed.
I read in the paper this morning a bit more detail on Litvinenko's claim that Putin was a paedophile.
There's either some truth in it, which would kind of explain Putin's reaction. Or it was one of these rumours that run around a workplace and people end up believing them.
If it was just office gossip, I don't think Putin would have reacted the way he did.
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mashed in maryland
10:46 Fri Jan 22
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Speculating a bit here, but in the days before global media (and especially during the cold war when censorship was more to do with national security than not offending people) I wonder how many killings like this went on without anyone picking up on it?
My guess would be countless.
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riosleftsock
10:44 Fri Jan 22
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goose
1 microgram (a speck of dust) ingested or inhaled is more than a fatal dose.
That is why it is only normally handled in laboratory conditions. Lethal stuff.
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goose
10:39 Fri Jan 22
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and they did protect themselves - Polonium needs to be ingested or inhaled. they used masks everytime they handled it.
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goose
10:38 Fri Jan 22
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the main suspect has actually been used as a poster boy by Putin. i think the last time they name him as the killer he was busy picking up an award at the Russian parliament.
FWIW Putin will be fuming about being called a paedo.
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riosleftsock
10:37 Fri Jan 22
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Mashed
They will disappear eventually. If they have mis-handled Pollonium and been exposed to it without any protection, they will most likely die of cancer within ten years.
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mashed in maryland
10:33 Fri Jan 22
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The two suspects will either disappear or carry on doing what they want. I don't even know shit all about this case and I'd bet everything I have that that will happen. Cos that's what happens.
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riosleftsock
10:31 Fri Jan 22
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Mashed, nurse etc
This will have annoyed Putin immensely. Not the enquiry, but the complete fuck up by the fsb to carry out this assassination discretely - they have made his organisation look like inept clowns.
International arrest warrants for the two suspects mean they can't leave without fearing extradition and arrest.
There will then be the usual tit-for-tat diplomatic expulsions, which will lead to inexperienced replacements being sent, who will make more mistakes and be less effective.
Will be an interesting story to follow in coming months.
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mashed in maryland
10:24 Fri Jan 22
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As if Putin would give a flying fuck that some inquiry in the UK reckon he's "acted unlawfully" hahahahaha
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Hammer and Pickle
10:23 Fri Jan 22
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He's a far right nationalist at the head of a secret-service/state security kleptocracy and this will serve to deepen the international isolation. Meanwhile, the state media will work even more intensively to stoke public xenophobia and other inferiority complexes so I agree with Nurse, yes he doesn't care.
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Darby_
10:17 Fri Jan 22
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Nurse has been dazzled by Putin's shirtless pony rides. The bloke's an idiot and is being slowly cooked by the West.
Putin cares about this sort of thing because it reinforces Russia's international isolation and the will behind Western sanctions. The more these sort of stories get out, the less people demand an end to the sanctions regime.
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Coffee
9:45 Fri Jan 22
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About disagreeing.
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Coffee
9:45 Fri Jan 22
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Agree.
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Nurse Ratched
9:42 Fri Jan 22
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We will have to agree to disagree, because as I said, repeatedly, he will not give a toss about any of this.
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Coffee
9:40 Fri Jan 22
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Russ of the BML 9:37 Fri Jan 22
Again, what else could they reasonably have done or said? In political terms, that statement was about as strong as it could be.
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Coffee
9:39 Fri Jan 22
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Nurse
I don't think Putin will be cowed, but I do think this blaze of publicity is not what he envisaged or necessarily wanted. To some extent he will have been embarrassed, because any sane person will assume that he's been caught red-handed in a political and nuclear assassination. I also believe that he was not targeting the UK, but that he wanted to send a strong message not just to those that have already jumped ship but also to those currently contemplating doing so. I don't think the UK particularly cares one way or another what he does to his own people, but would prefer that he did it on his own soil.
Sincerely yours,
Typical, self-loathing, eunuchy western European man in the midst of a moral crisis and lacking Y chromosomes.
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Russ of the BML
9:37 Fri Jan 22
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It's the statement that almost makes the investigation pointless I suppose.
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Russ of the BML
9:37 Fri Jan 22
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Coffee 9:31 Fri Jan 22
But it's the wetness of the statement. It's just pathetic.
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Infidel
9:37 Fri Jan 22
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This has to be the non-story of the decade.
Nobody had ever heard of this man before he was poisoned. Now suddenly he's all over the news as if he were a British citizen.
He was a Russian spy. All the major powers have spies. What goes in that murky world is anybody's guess.
Here we are condemning Russia for eliminating one of their agents who had switched sides. Fine. So will the British Foreign Secretary sign an affidavit that the UK has never done the same thing to one of our own agents? Would the US sign such an affidavit?
No.
This is Russia's business.It has nothing to do with us. We would likely do the same thing Moscow has done faced with the same circumstances. End of story.
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Nurse Ratched
9:32 Fri Jan 22
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And I genuinely don't mean that to be unkind. You are just a man of your times.
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Coffee
9:31 Fri Jan 22
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Yes.
Nothing was not an option, which leaves a public enquiry.
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